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Helen shares many of her career experiences working across JP Morgan, The Ohio State University, and now Cisco.

-Is technical acumen needed for CISOs?

-Surviving organizational politics

(34:45) Helen discusses The Fab 5 Security Outcomes study.

Volume 1 Study - Link

Volume 2 Study - Link

$\"Fab5\"$

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