CISO Tradecraft®

#224 - The Evolution of Data Loss Prevention (DLP)

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G. Mark Hardy dives into the evolution, challenges, and solutions of Data Loss Prevention (DLP). From early methods like 'dirty word lists' in the military to advanced AI and machine learning models of today, discover how DLP technologies have developed to safeguard sensitive information. Learn about different DLP phases, regulatory impacts, and modern tools like Microsoft Purview that can help manage and classify data effectively. This episode is packed with valuable insights to help you tackle data security with confidence and efficiency.
Transcripts
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u7owNI5P3WajJvRPIXbzrUYy-PCsRcfC
References
Crash course in Microsoft Purview: A guide to securing and managing your data estate
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Data Loss Prevention (DLP)
00:45 Early Days of DLP: Dirty Word Lists and Simple Networks
02:39 Evolution of DLP: Content Filtering and Endpoint Protection
06:05 Advanced Content Inspection and Policy Enforcement
09:19 Unified DLP and Cloud Adoption
16:04 Modern DLP: AI, Machine Learning, and Zero Trust
19:12 Implementing DLP with Microsoft Purview
28:59 Summary and Final Thoughts
 

#223 - A CISO Primer on Agentic AI

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, G. Mark Hardy dives deep into the world of Agentic AI and its impact on cybersecurity. The discussion covers the definition and characteristics of Agentic AI, as well as expert insights on its feasibility. Learn about its primary functions—perception, cognition, and action—and explore practical cybersecurity applications. Discover the rapid advancements made by tech giants and potential risks involved. This episode is a comprehensive guide to understanding and securely implementing Agentic AI in your enterprise.
Transcripts https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIv2NKX0DL4NTnvqKV9rKrgrewa68m3W
References
Vladimir Putin - https://www.rt.com/news/401731-ai-rule-world-putin/
Minds and Machines - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s44163-024-00216-2
Anthropic - https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/22/anthropic-announces-ai-agents-for-complex-tasks-racing-openai.html
Convergence AI - https://convergence.ai/training-web-agents-with-web-world-models-dec-2024/
OpenAI Operator - https://openai.com/index/introducing-operator/
ByteDance UITARS - https://venturebeat.com/ai/bytedances-ui-tars-can-take-over-your-computer-outperforms-gpt-4o-and-claude/
Zapier - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/openai-bytedance-zapier-launch-ai-agents-getcoai-l6blf/
Microsoft OmniParser - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/articles/omniparser-v2-turning-any-llm-into-a-computer-use-agent/
Google Project Mariner - https://deepmind.google/technologies/project-mariner/
Rajeev Sharma - Agentic AI Architecture - https://markovate.com/blog/agentic-ai-architecture/
NIST.AI.600-1 - https://doi.org/10.6028/NIST.AI.600-1
Mitre ATLAS - https://atlas.mitre.org/
OWASP Top 10 for LLMs - https://owasp.org/www-project-top-10-for-large-language-model-applications/
ISO 42001 - https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction and Intriguing Quote
01:10 Defining Agentic AI
02:01 Expert Insights on Agency
04:32 Agentic AI in Practice
06:54 Recent Developments in Agentic AI
08:20 Deep Dive into Agentic AI Infrastructure
15:35 Use Cases for Agentic AI
21:12 Challenges and Considerations
24:22 Conclusion and Recap

#222 - 40 Years of Career Advice in 40 Minutes

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, G. Mark Hardy shares 15 crucial characteristics to help you succeed in your cybersecurity career and become an effective CISO. From knowing yourself and developing leadership skills to enhancing communications and staying current with trends, Hardy distills decades of wisdom into practical advice. Learn how to navigate career transitions, build technical credibility, become an effective storyteller, and master political skills essential for C-level success.
Transcripts:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MpjXD8LqnHS_Lj1S-6T7vxcclxzUjEhe
 
Chapters
01:30 Know Yourself: The First Step to Success
05:23 Develop Your Leadership Skills
07:09 Enhance Your Communication Skills
11:37 Gain Broad Experience
14:28 Pursue Advanced Education
18:13 Network with Other Professionals
20:47 The Importance of Mentorship
22:20 Building Valuable Connections
23:43 Aligning with Business Goals
25:38 Deepening Technical Expertise
26:59 Staying Current with Trends
28:03 Promoting a Security-First Culture
30:18 Addressing Skills Gaps
31:53 Becoming a Master Storyteller
33:35 Engaging with Executives
34:41 Strategic Thinking and Time Management
37:27 Mastering Political Skills
39:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

#221 - Microsoft Majorana is Taking the Quantum Leap

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy discusses Microsoft's groundbreaking announcement of their new quantum chip, the Majorana. The chip harnesses properties of a topological superconductor, making quantum computing promises more tangible. The episode delves into the technical aspects of quantum bits (qubits), cryptography, and the implications of topological quantum computing. With insights on competitor advancements by Google and potential challenges, this episode provides a comprehensive overview of quantum computing's future and its cyber security implications.
 
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O2XG47o2_6jHBtPKL2PcwGRKPe69wFvi
Link: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/quantum/2025/02/19/microsoft-unveils-majorana-1-the-worlds-first-quantum-processor-powered-by-topological-qubits/
 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to CISO Tradecraft
00:26 Microsoft's Quantum Chip Announcement
01:51 Understanding Quantum Bits
03:23 Quantum Computing and Cryptography
06:00 Microsoft's Quantum Leap
09:41 The Physics Behind Quantum Computing
16:48 Majorana Particle and Its Significance
20:29 Applications and Future of Quantum Computing
25:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
 

#220 - Executive Updates to AI

In this CISO Tradecraft episode, host G. Mark Hardy delves into the recent U.S. presidential executive orders impacting AI and their implications for cybersecurity professionals. Learn about the evolution of AI policies from various administrations and how they influence national security, innovation, and the strategic decisions of CISOs. Discover key directives, deregulatory moves, and practical steps you can take to secure your AI systems in an era marked by rapidly changing regulations. Plus, explore the benefits of using AI tools like ZeroPath to bolster your cybersecurity efforts.
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nv27tpDQs2fjdOedJOi0LhlkyQ5N5dKt
Links: 
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/publications/teaching-legal-docs/what-is-an-executive-order-/ 
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/02/14/2019-02544/maintaining-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence
https://www.csis.org/analysis/made-china-2025
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242704112_China's_15-year_Science_and_Technology_Plan  https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/12/08/2020-27065/promoting-the-use-of-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence-in-the-federal-government  https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/17/2021-10460/improving-the-nations-cybersecurity
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/11/01/2023-24283/safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence 
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-14148-initial-rescissions-harmful- executive-orders-and-actions
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/01/17/2025-01470/strengthening-and-promoting- innovation-in-the-nations-cybersecurity
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/01/17/2025-01470/strengthening-and-promoting- innovation-in-the-nations-cybersecurity 
https://www.cisecurity.org/controls/cis-controls-list 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to AI Policy Shifts
00:23 AI Tool for Cybersecurity: ZeroPath
01:12 Understanding Executive Orders
02:44 EO 13859: Maintaining American Leadership in AI
05:42 EO 13960: Trustworthy AI in Federal Government
07:10 EO 14028: Strengthening U.S. Cybersecurity
09:38 EO 14110: Safe and Trustworthy AI Development
11:09 EO 14148: Rescinding AI Policies
12:21 EO 14179: Removing Barriers to AI Innovation
15:26 EO 14144: Strengthening Cybersecurity Innovation
37:19 Mapping Executive Orders to CIS Controls
40:15 Conclusion and Key Takeaways

#219 - The Professionalization of CISOs (with Steve Zalewski & Tyson Kopczynski)

This podcast episode discusses the formation of a professional association for CISOs, driven by increasing personal liability risks faced by these executives. The conversation centers on establishing a formal definition and accreditation process for the CISO role, moving beyond existing certifications to demonstrate operational and theoretical expertise. This professionalization effort aims to reduce personal liability through a tailored insurance product, negotiated collectively by the association, and preempt potentially ill-defined government regulations. Ultimately, the goal is to create a structured, respected profession for CISOs, offering benefits such as insurance, professional development, and a unified voice within the industry.
Professional Association of CISOs - https://theciso.org/
Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BNeUzSyPYX-vAYwQl9qCi0GhknYhKnWF/ 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Professionalizing the CISO Role
00:52 The Genesis of a Professional Association
03:39 Challenges and Legal Liabilities for CISOs
04:43 The Value of Joining the Association
06:24 Accreditation and Certification Process
10:38 Insurance and Risk Management for CISOs
18:45 Future Directions and Getting Involved

#218 - How AI Changes Talent Management (with Colleen Lennox)

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G. Mark Hardy and special guest Colleen Lennox dive into the transformative power of AI in HR. Discover how AI can revolutionize identifying, attracting, and retaining cybersecurity talent. They discuss the challenges of finding the right personnel in the cybersecurity field, the innovative AI-driven solutions that can streamline recruitment processes, and how these tools can help in talent management and career progression. Stay tuned as they explore the potential of AI in creating a more effective and bias-free hiring process, while also discussing the future implications for HR and recruiters in the evolving landscape. Big Thanks to our
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f6B9Ye02WHWo7q15avBm0359pxGNqnVu
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction: AI and Workforce Concerns
00:28 Welcome to CISO Tradecraft
01:01 Meet Colleen Lennox: AI in HR
01:27 Challenges in Cybersecurity Recruitment
03:11 AI-Powered Recruitment Solutions
07:07 Improving Talent Management with AI
13:36 Addressing Bias in AI Recruitment
17:20 Future of AI in HR and Recruitment
21:04 Conclusion and Contact Information

#217 - Includes No Dirt (with Bill Dougherty)

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G. Mark Hardy sits down with Bill Dougherty, CISO of Omada Health, to discuss a groundbreaking threat model called 'Includes No Dirt'. This comprehensive model integrates security, privacy, and compliance considerations, aiming to streamline and enhance threat modeling processes. The conversation covers the origin and principles of the model, its applicability across different sectors, and the essential aspects of threat modeling. Listeners are also treated to insights on handling third-party risks and adapting to emerging AI challenges. The episode provides practical advice for cybersecurity leaders looking to effectively manage and mitigate risks while reducing redundancy.
 
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The No DIRT Threat Model can be found here: http://www.includesnodirt.com/nodirt.pdf
 
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vWq4Zx7pzM_B65W933m8_TE0fLKaUw3X
 
Chapters
03:27 The Genesis of Includes No Dirt
05:05 Combining Security, Privacy, and Compliance
07:24 Implementing the No Dirt Model
11:42 Scoring and Evaluating Risks
17:41 Third-Party Risk Management
25:49 Evaluating SaaS Requests Based on Risk
27:55 Adapting Threat Models for AI
31:24 Principles of Minimum Necessary Data
33:42 General Applicability of Security Principles
35:12 Includes No Dirt: A Comprehensive Threat Model
40:15 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

#216 - The TTPs of a Security Champions Program (with Dustin Lehr)

Join G. Mark Hardy in a riveting episode of CISO Tradecraft as he sits down with Dustin Lehr to uncover strategies for creating security champions among developers. Explore effective techniques to inspire culture change, leverage AI tools for security, and discover the difference between leadership and management. This insightful discussion includes actionable steps to establish a robust security champions program, from defining a vision to executing with gamification. Whether you’re an aspiring champion or a seasoned cybersecurity leader, this episode is packed with valuable insights to elevate your organization’s security practices.
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Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IgPbmnNaEF_1GIQTRxHStOoUKtZM4azH
 
Learn more about this topic by reading Justin's Website - https://securitychampionsuccessguide.org/
Justin Lehr's Company - https://www.katilyst.com/
 
Chapters
01:05 Meet Dustin Lair
04:05 Leadership vs. Management
06:17 The Role of Security Champions
17:20 Recruiting Security Champions
24:42 Exploring the Framework: Vision and Goals
26:25 Defining Participants and Their Roles
28:37 Understanding the Current Setting
33:27 Conceptualizing Ideal Actions
35:20 Designing with Gamification in Mind
40:30 Effective Delivery and Continuous Tuning
41:30 Overcoming Challenges and Final Thoughts

#215 - CISO Predictions for 2025

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy explores the top 10 cybersecurity predictions for 2025. From the rise of AI influencers to new standards in encryption, Hardy discusses significant trends and changes expected in the cybersecurity landscape. The episode delves into topics such as branding, application security, browser-based security, and post-quantum cryptography, aiming to prepare listeners for future challenges and advancements in the field.
 
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Team8 Fixing AppSec Paper - https://bunny-wp-pullzone-pqzn4foj9c.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Fixing-AppSec-Paper.pdf
Terraform and Open Policy Agent Example - https://spacelift.io/blog/terraform-best-practices#8-introduce-policy-as-code
Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u6B2PrkJ1D14d9HjQQHSg7Fan3M6n4dy
Chapters
01:19 1) AI Influencers become normalized
03:17 2) The Importance of Production Quality in Branding
05:19 3) Google and Apple Collaboration for Enhanced Security
06:28 4) Consolidation in Application Security and Vulnerability Management
08:36 5) The Rise of Models Committees
09:09 6) Formalizing the CISO Role
11:03 7) Exclusive CISO Retreats: The New Trend
12:12 8) Automating Cybersecurity Tasks with Agentic AI
13:10 9) Browser-Based Security Solutions
14:22 10) Post-Quantum Cryptography: Preparing for the Future
 

#214 - Deceive to Detect (with Yuriy Gatupov)

🔥 Hackers Beware! Cyber Deception is Changing the Game 🔥
In this must-hear episode of CISO Tradecraft, we expose a mind-blowing cybersecurity strategy that flips the script on attackers. Instead of waiting to be breached, cyber deception technology tricks hackers into revealing themselves—before they can do real damage. 🚨🎭
Imagine laying digital traps—fake credentials, bogus systems, and irresistible bait—that lead cybercriminals straight into a controlled maze where every move they make is tracked.
Early threat detection? ✅
Real-time attacker intel? ✅
Fewer false positives? ✅
🎙️ Featuring deception tech guru Yuriy Gatupov, we break down:
✅ How deception tech works & why it’s a game-changer
✅ How to expose and track hackers in real time
✅ How to prove ROI and make the case for your org Cyber deception isn’t just defense—it’s offense against cyber threats. Are you ready to fight back? Listen now!
 
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Contact Yuriy Gatupov -  info@labyrinth.tech 
Yuri's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuriy-gatupov-373155281/ 
 
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oyQzCBRoPLbDOCOCypJMGGXxcPI5w75o 
 
Chapters 
02:05 History of Cyber Deception
04:57 Advantages of Deception Technology
06:57 Engagement and Detection Strategies
10:18 How Deception Technology Works
16:13 Attack Scenarios and Detection
24:09 Decoys and Deception: A New Paradigm
24:56 Real-World Success Stories
33:30 Deception in OT and SCADA Systems
37:38 Calculating ROI for Deception Technologies

#213 - How to Build a Successful Cybersecurity Startup (with Ross Haleliuk)

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy interviews Ross Haleliuk, author of 'Cyber for Builders: The Essential Guide to Building a Cybersecurity Startup.' Ross shares valuable insights on starting a cybersecurity company, and emphasizes the importance of understanding market needs, customer engagement, and trust in the industry. They discuss the role of angel investors, the differences between product and service companies, and the challenges founders face. The episode also includes an announcement about CISO Tradecraft's partnership with CruiseCon for an upcoming cybersecurity conference. Additionally, Ross provides a glimpse into his non-traditional background and journey into the cybersecurity space.
 
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Ross Haleliuk's Book - https://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Builders-Essential-Building-Cybersecurity/dp/173823410X/
Ross Haleliuk's LinkedIn Page - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosshaleliuk/ 
 
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b8UPolYvYWEYbmO7n_7NqrilObv-HNzo Chapters
02:28 Ross Haleliuk's Background and Journey
04:32 Discussing the Book: Cyber for Builders
10:52 Insights on Cybersecurity and Business
15:54 Challenges and Realities of Cybersecurity Startups
22:19 Navigating Market Competition
23:15 Entering Established Markets
24:28 Challenges in Security Tool Adoption
25:11 Legacy Vendors and Market Entrenchment
27:35 Building a Company: Beyond the Product
30:02 Validating Market Needs
32:27 Funding Your Startup
35:25 The Role of Angel Investors
43:29 Conclusion and Next Steps

#212 - Repeatable, Attestable, and Defensible AI (with AWS's Former Deputy CISO Merritt Baer)

Join us on CISO Tradecraft as we explore the future of cybersecurity with Merritt Barrett, former Deputy CISO at AWS. Merritt, a Harvard Law graduate, shares her expert insights on the trends expected in the upcoming years, emphasizing the enduring aspects of cybersecurity, the implications of AI, and challenges in cloud security. Discover valuable strategies for managing security risks, the evolution of ransomware, and the integration of sustainable practices within the industry. Don't miss this episode filled with practical advice for current and aspiring CISOs!
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Transcripts https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KRkN7jVZvAaYk1eSBde3GTiD-G9RPjXJ
 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview
01:16 Future of Cybersecurity
02:18 AWS Security Insights
04:35 Shared Responsibility Model
09:59 AI in Cybersecurity
21:55 Security and Environmental Concerns
32:36 Predictions for 2025 and Beyond
42:46 Closing Remarks and Contact Information

#211 - Allowlisting and Ringfencing (with Kieran Human)

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy discusses the history and evolution of endpoint protection with guest Kieran Human from ThreatLocker. Starting from the inception of antivirus software by John McAfee in the late 1980s, the episode delves into the advancements through Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) and introduces the latest in endpoint security: allowlisting and ring fencing. The conversation highlights the limitations of traditional antivirus and EDR solutions in today's threat landscape, emphasizing the necessity of default-deny approaches to enhance cybersecurity. Kieran explains how ThreatLocker’s allowlisting and ring-fencing capabilities can block unauthorized applications and actions, thus significantly reducing the risk of malware and ransomware attacks. Practical insights, war stories, and deployment strategies are shared to help cybersecurity leaders implement these next-generation tools effectively.
 
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UMrK44ysBjltNkddCkwx9ly6GJ14tIbC
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Endpoint Protection
00:41 Upcoming Event: CruiseCon 2025
01:18 History of Endpoint Protection
03:34 Evolution of Antivirus to EDR
05:25 Next-Gen Endpoint Protection: Allowlisting
06:44 Guest Introduction: Kieran Human from ThreatLocker
08:06 Benefits of Allowlisting and Ring Fencing
17:14 Challenges and Best Practices
26:19 Conclusion and Call to Action

#210 - Salt Typhoon and Vulnerable Telecoms

In this crucial episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy delves into the urgent topic of the 'Salt Typhoon' threat, with insights from experts Adam Isles and Andreas Kurland from the Chertoff Group. The episode covers the implications for corporate security using SMS text messages when Chinese actors are breaking into major telecommunication entities. The conversation focuses on encryption, secure communications, and measures to mitigate risks from vulnerabilities in telecommunications infrastructure. The discussion includes practical steps for securing messaging, voice calls, virtual meetings, and emails. Learn actionable strategies to bolster your organization’s cybersecurity posture and ensure robust defense against sophisticated state-level cyber threats.
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Link to recommendations:
https://chertoffgroup.com/end-to-end-encryption-is-essential/ 
Transcripts https://docs.google.com/document/d/13NKPUBU3c-qYQtX18NR08oYVRSSnHD_a
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Salt Typhoon
01:31 Meet the Experts: Adam Isles and Andreas Kurland
02:03 Understanding the Salt Typhoon Threat
04:49 Telecommunications and Security Risks
07:37 Messaging Security: Risks and Recommendations
20:14 Voice Communication Security
28:44 Securing Virtual Meetings
34:45 Email Security: Challenges and Solutions
41:35 Conclusion and Contact Information

#209 - AI Singularity (with Richard Thieme)

In this riveting episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy welcomes back Richard Thieme, a thought leader in cybersecurity and technology, almost three years after his last appearance. Richard delves into the necessity of thinking like a hacker, provides insights into the AI singularity, and discusses the ethical and societal implications of emerging technologies. The conversation also touches on Richard's extensive body of work, including his books and views on cyber warfare, disinformation, and ethical decision-making. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges conventional wisdom and explores the interconnectedness of technology, consciousness, and our future.
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Link to Richard’s home page (and links to Amazon for his books): 
            https://thiemeworks.com/
Link to the book, The Ending of Time:
            https://store.kfa.org/products/the-ending-of-time-new-edition
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q7CJkF7Spji2iAbV_mYEyYHnKWobzo6N
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction and Guest Announcement
00:56 Upcoming Cybersecurity Event: CruiseCon
01:41 Welcoming Back Richard Thieme
02:06 Reflecting on Past Discussions
02:59 The Necessity for Thinking Like a Hacker
03:10 Exploring Richard Thieme's Books
08:25 Understanding AI and Its Implications
18:28 Soft Power and Global Influence
24:01 The Power of Fiction in Revealing Truth
24:37 Ethical Frameworks Post 9/11
26:12 The Role of Empathy in Intelligence Work
26:37 The Blurring Line Between Fact and Fiction
29:52 The Isolation of Intelligence Work
31:18 The Interconnectedness of Everything
33:36 Exploring Remote Viewing and Consciousness
36:50 The Rise of AI and Ethical Considerations
39:43 The Evolution of Technology and Society
45:07 Final Thoughts and Reflections

#208 - Insider Threat (with Shawnee Delaney)

This podcast episode of CISO Tradecraft features Shawnee Delaney, an insider threat expert, discussing insider threats in cybersecurity. Delaney, whose background includes espionage, explains how understanding human motivation and vulnerabilities is crucial for identifying and mitigating insider threats. The conversation highlights the importance of organizational culture, employee well-being, and proactive measures like employee lifecycle management and psychological testing in preventing such threats. Practical advice is offered for leaders to foster a supportive and communicative work environment to detect potential threats early. Finally, methods for creating effective insider threat programs and addressing cultural issues are explored.
Shawnee Delaney's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnee-delaney/
Vaillance Group - https://www.vaillancegroup.com/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xJiEMDL8CjNwwfBSvNHfnhfsrVgOMuk0
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Insider Threat
00:26 Guest Introduction: Shawnee Delaney
00:58 CruiseCon 2025 Announcement
01:33 Shawnee's Career Journey
02:18 Understanding Espionage
03:43 Motivations Behind Espionage
07:46 Indicators of Insider Threat
10:48 Building a Positive Organizational Culture
18:21 Implementing an Insider Threat Program
21:05 Psychological Testing in Hiring
23:26 Assessing Organizational Culture
25:34 Core Values in the Navy and Marine Corps
26:16 A Commanding Officer's Story
28:32 Identifying Insider Threats
32:01 The Impact of Job Uncertainty
36:50 Gamifying Security Incentives
39:12 Building a Strong Security Culture
42:05 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

#207 - CISO Burnout (with Raghav Singh)

Welcome to another enlightening episode of CISO Tradecraft! In this episode, host G. Mark Hardy dives deep into the critical topic of CISO burnout with special guest Raghav Singh, a PhD candidate from the University of Buffalo. This is an eye-opening session for anyone in the cybersecurity field, especially those in or aspiring to the CISO role. Raghav shares valuable insights from his extensive research on the unique stresses faced by CISOs, the organizational factors contributing to burnout, and practical coping mechanisms. We also explore the evolutionary phases of CISOs, from technical experts to strategic business enablers. Whether you're dealing with resource limitations, seeking executive support, or managing ever-evolving cybersecurity threats, this episode offers actionable advice to navigate the demanding role of a CISO successfully. Don't forget to like, comment, and share to help other CISOs and cybersecurity leaders!
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fhLkaj_JetlYFQ50Q69uMGmsw3fS3Wqa
CISO Burnout - https://aisel.aisnet.org/amcis2023/sig_lead/sig_lead/4/
CISO-CIO Power Dynamics https://aisel.aisnet.org/amcis2024/is_leader/is_leader/6/ 
Cybersec professionals and AI integration https://aisel.aisnet.org/amcis2024/security/security/29/
Raghav can be reached on rsingh45@buffalo.edu
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
02:34 Understanding CISO Burnout
03:24 PhD Journey and Challenges
10:12 Key Findings on CISO Burnout
18:39 Six Sources of CISO Burnout
32:47 CISO Maturity Levels
42:57 Conclusion and Call to Action

#206 - Ira Winkler CruiseCon Founder

Setting Sail with Cybersecurity: Exclusive Insights from Ira Winkler on CruiseCon 2025 🛳️ Join us for an exciting episode of CISO Tradecraft as G Mark Hardy sits down with renowned cybersecurity expert Ira Winkler! Discover the groundbreaking CruiseCon 2025, the first at-sea cybersecurity conference, featuring top-tier speakers and unrivaled networking opportunities. Learn about Ira's illustrious career, the significance of certifications, and the current state of the cybersecurity job market. Don't miss out on this chance to enhance your career and connect with industry luminaries.
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CGyFBxOrxvJitKsH9BRKwf2_g8rRPZ6K
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Special Announcement
00:42 Reconnecting with Ira Winkler
04:07 Early Cybersecurity Days and Certifications
14:35 Innovative Ideas and CruiseCon
21:32 Meet the Top Cybersecurity Experts
22:13 Exciting Events and Networking Opportunities
24:10 Special Deals and Sponsorships
34:47 Addressing the Cybersecurity Job Market

#205 - Wisdom from the 1st Cyber Colonel (JC Vega)

Join G. Mark Hardy on this exciting episode of CISO Tradecraft as he interviews J.C. Vega, the first cyber colonel in the United States Army. Vega shares his invaluable insights on leadership, team building, and success strategies that can transform your cybersecurity career. Plus, learn about CruiseCon 2025, Wee Dram, and how you can take your leadership skills to the next level. Don't miss out on this episode packed with wisdom, actionable advice, and some fun anecdotes. Subscribe, comment, and share with your peers!
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JC Vega - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcvega-cyber-colonel/ 
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExuX-WVO4_qqLoIZDuT0QS2VAvN2resW
 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement
01:15 Meet J.C. Vega: The First Cyber Colonel
01:55 The Wee Dram Community
03:39 Building a Trusted Cybersecurity Community
09:12 Leadership Principles from Military to Civilian Life
12:31 Building and Leading Effective Teams
24:17 The Peter Principle and Career Progression
24:49 Creating a Shared Understanding in Cybersecurity
26:43 Commander's Intent: Defining Success
29:29 Empowering Teams and Accepting Prudent Risk
36:19 Rules to Live By: The Vega's Top Three
44:58 Final Thoughts and Farewell

#204 - Shadows and Zombies in the Data Center

In this special Halloween episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy delves into the lurking dangers of Shadow IT and Zombie IT within organizations. Learn about the origins, risks, and impacts of these hidden threats, and discover proactive measures that CISOs can implement to safeguard their IT ecosystems. Strategies discussed include rigorous asset management, automation, and comprehensive compliance reviews. Tune in for insights to foster a secure, compliant, and efficient IT environment, and don't miss out on an exclusive opportunity to join a cybersecurity conference aboard a luxury cruise.
 
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lh-TQhaSOIA2rITaXgTaqugl7FRGevnn
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Shadow IT and Zombie IT
02:14 Defining Shadow IT
04:58 Risks of Shadow IT
07:29 Introduction to Zombie IT
09:35 Risks of Zombie IT
11:25 Shadows vs Zombies
11:25 Comparing Shadow IT and Zombie IT
19:11 Lifecycle Management Strategies
19:56 Summarizing the Threats and Solutions
22:32 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

#203 - Be SOCcessful with the SOC-CMM

Unlocking SOC Excellence: Master the SOC Capability Maturity Model Join host G Mark Hardy in this compelling episode of CISO Tradecraft as he explores the revolutionary SOC Capability Maturity Model (SOC CMM) authored by Rob van Os. This episode is a must-watch for CISOs, aspiring CISOs, and cybersecurity professionals aiming to optimize their Security Operations Center (SOC). Learn how to measure, evaluate, and enhance your SOC's maturity across key domains including Business, People, Process, Technology, and Services. Gain insights into leveraging radar charts for visualizing SOC capabilities and hear case studies such as a mid-sized financial company’s remarkable improvements. Discover why understanding your SOC's strengths and weaknesses and conducting risk-based improvement planning are crucial. Don't miss out—elevate your cyber resilience today, subscribe, and share with your network to set your SOC on the path to excellence!
References:
SOC-CMM - https://www.soc-cmm.com/products/soc-cmm/
Robert van Os - https://www.linkedin.com/in/socadvisor/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fk6_t9FMyYXDF-7EfgpX_ZjLc0iPAgfN
Chapters
00:12 Introduction to CISO Tradecraft and SOCs
01:20 Understanding SOC CMM: A Game-Changing Tool
02:29 Evaluating SOC Maturity and Capability
06:04 Benefits and Implementation of SOC CMM
07:56 Understanding SOC Assessments
08:55 Deep Dive into SOC CMM Domains
12:42 Benefits and Flexibility of SOC CMM
14:40 Real-World Application and Conclusion

#202 - Cybersecurity Crisis: Are We Failing the Next Generation?

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy explores the challenges and misconceptions facing the next generation of cybersecurity professionals. The discussion covers the myth of a talent shortage, the shortcomings of current educational and certification programs, and the significance of aligning curricula with real-world needs. Hardy emphasizes the importance of hands-on experience, developing soft skills, and fostering continuous learning. The episode also highlights strategies for retaining talent, promoting internal training, and creating leadership opportunities to cultivate a skilled and satisfied cybersecurity workforce.
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12fI2efHXuHR4dS3cu7P0UIBCtjBdgREI
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Cybersecurity Talent Crisis
00:40 Debunking the Talent Shortage Myth
02:23 The Real Talent Gap: Mid-Career Professionals
03:04 Outsourcing and Its Impact on Entry-Level Jobs
08:29 Challenges in Cybersecurity Education
16:13 The Importance of Practical Skills Over Theory
23:52 The Importance of Writing Skills
25:10 Continuous Learning and Self-Investment
26:07 Performance and Career Progression
28:40 Mentorship and Onboarding
29:51 Training and Development Challenges
32:32 Retention Strategies
33:44 Engaging Junior Employees
39:07 Technology and Innovation
40:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

#201 - Avoiding Hurricanes in the Cloud

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, hosted by G Mark Hardy, you'll learn about four crucial tools in cloud security: CNAPP, CASB, CSPM, and CWPP. These tools serve various functions like protecting cloud-native applications, managing access security, maintaining cloud posture, and securing cloud workloads. The discussion covers their roles, benefits, key success metrics, and best practices for CISOs. As the cloud security landscape evolves, understanding and integrating these tools is vital for keeping your organization safe against cyber threats.
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mx9qr30RuWrDUw1TLNkUDQ8xo4xvQdP_
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Cloud Security Tools
02:24 Understanding CNAPP: The Comprehensive Cyber Defense
08:13 Exploring CASB: The Cloud Access Gatekeeper
11:12 Diving into CSPM: Ensuring Cloud Compliance
13:40 CWPP: Protecting Cloud Workloads
15:08 Best Practices for Cloud Security
15:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

#200 - Copywriting AI (with Mark Rasch)

In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, hosts G Mark Hardy and Mark Rasch discuss the intersection of artificial intelligence and the law. Recorded at the COSAC computer conference in Dublin, this episode covers the legal implications of AI, copyright issues, AI-generated content, privacy concerns, and ethical considerations. They explore the nuances between directed and undirected AI, the importance of training data, and the potential risks and liabilities associated with AI-driven systems. Tune in for a deep dive into how AI is reshaping cybersecurity and legal landscapes.
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s_eDwz-FPuyxYZRJaOknWi2Ozjqmodrl
Chapters
00:00 Introductions
01:13 Diving into Artificial Intelligence
04:04 Directed vs. Undirected AI
11:02 Legal and Ethical Issues of AI
23:47 AI and Copyright: Who Owns the Creation?
26:59 The Role of AI in Information Security
32:51 Ethical Dilemmas in AI Decision-Making
39:18 Future Challenges and Recommendations for AI